This week Chris sits down with Matt Chandler, Lead Pastor of The Village Church outside Dallas. Chris has been listening to Matt for years, and over the last couple of years they've become friends.
Matt grew up believing he was useful but not lovable, and it made him the kind of achiever our culture applauds. In 2015, more than a decade into leading The Village, he hit a wall. His marriage wasn't what he wanted it to be, he didn't like his relationship with his kids, and he knew no Bible verse was going to fix it. So the man who once called therapy pseudoscience went and got help.
Matt also tells the story of his daughter, Audrey, who knew everything about her parents' faith and wanted none of it, and what Matt and his wife, Lauren, learned about loving her through it.
They discuss:
• Why so many men win at work and fail at home
• Why another billion won't fix what's broken inside
• Why most men don't really know themselves
• Why his closest friends see his tax returns
• What he tells his wife on the days he wakes up wrong
• Why his daughter needed a dad, not a pastor
• Why he told her no when she asked to come home
• How his daughter found her way back to faith
• Why the only way to learn to pray is to pray
Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(01:10) Raising a Prodigal Daughter
(07:12) A Teacher's Call About Smoking Pot at School
(10:46) She Needs a Dad, Not a Pastor
(16:27) Praying Over a Prodigal Child
(20:38) Can You Love Jesus Without Conviction of Sin?
(25:49) Behavior Modification Versus the Root of Sin
(31:29) My Father Cannot Love Me Like I Love My Son
(38:03) She Wanted to Come Home and He Said No
(43:48) Audrey Moves Home and Hits Rock Bottom
(50:46) How Audrey Finally Came to Faith
(56:46) Why Prayer Matters and How to Start
(1:05:48) Bringing Word and Spirit Together in the Church
(1:11:19) Every Man Needs Life Guys
(1:16:20) Why Men Win at Work and Fail at Home
(1:20:51) The Conversation Most Men Never Have With Their Wives
===
Presented by Collateral Partners:
Collateral Partners builds institutional-grade investor materials for private credit, private equity, real estate, and family office firms, the kind of marketing collateral that helps you close capital. Learn more at https://collateral.com/powers
===
Sponsored by:
Juniper Square is the operations partner for GPs in private equity, venture capital, oil and gas, real estate, and infrastructure. It brings technology, data, and administration together on one governed source of truth you own, so your team spends less time reconciling and more time running the firm your LPs are backing. Learn more at https://www.junipersquare.com/powers
Relay Human Cloud gives you pre-vetted, fully managed global talent for up to 75% less than hiring locally. Your best people stop doing repetitive work and get back to the work that moves your company forward. Learn more at https://www.relayhumancloud.com/powers
===
Chris on Social Media:
X: https://x.com/fortworthchris
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepowerspodcast
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/45gIkFd
Watch POWERS on YouTube: https://bit.ly/3oynxNX
Visit our website: https://www.powerspod.com/
Leave a review on Apple: https://bit.ly/45crFD0
Leave a review on Spotify: https://bit.ly/3Krl9jO